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Re: Lucky's Series 3

Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2015 11:27 am
by Lucky
Thanks! Kind of you to say so 0-0


As to the subject of flaps (ooer)... not sure if they're needed yet. So far the temperatures are definitely lower than they were before just with the holes I've cut, and in the traffic I've got stuck in so far it takes a lot longer for the gauge to start climbing. I've not yet got stuck in truly apocalyptic traffic jams like the M25 yet, though, so still waiting to see

Re: Lucky's Series 3

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:54 pm
by Lucky
So, I finally got round to installing a rear seatbelt so I can convey both the offspring at the same time. If it weren't for Ian's excellent and highly useful thread here http://www.rx7fb.com/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1550 I wouldn't even have known where to start, but once I knew the mounting points already existed, it was a piece of proverbial. For anyone wishing to do the same, here's the skinny;

As per Ian's thread, the mounting points are found by lifting the rear seat squab and removing the C-pillar trim panels. The seat base has the point for the buckles in the trans tunnel bulge thus;

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The wheel arc trim vinyl bag thing conceals the lower mount (excuse the horrible-looking repair, but they all rust here, as you know. It's sound, it's just the sprayed-over sealant gunk that makes it look so gnarly
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The top mount is hidden behind the velour-y panel, which you will need to make a hole it for the mounting bolt to screw through. My method for working out where the hole needed to go was to screw a big allen bolt the correct size (M12 fine) into the mounting hole
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...and then replace the trim panel over the top and whack it with a big mallet. This cut the allen head into the rear of the trim panel, neatly marking where to make the hole
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which was duly done with a chisel bit (it's only card). Fortunately the weird velour stuff is pretty fray-resistant, but I edged it with a piece of vacc hose slit lengthwise to make a rubber trim
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The kit I bought is a Securon one, available on the Bay of E although I got mine from Car Builder Solutions cos it was cheaper. Unfortunately, I got the short-stalk buckle variant thinking the seats are so small you didn't want a really long buckle that would then leave less space for adjusting the actual belt length. Unfortunately, the buckle mount, which from the photos I thought was that bendy sorta plastic stuff, turned out to be 5mm steel :roll: I managed to bend it a bit but there was no way with the angle of the mounting hole that it was ever going to line up with the slot in the seat base, it ended up pointing towards the offside of the car and I'd have had to get so brutal to bend it more that I could see the buckle shattering into a million pieces
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The solution presented in a half-price lap belt from, of all people, Halfrauds, who happened to have an old-stock one left despite them not officially stocking them any more. even more remarkably, I managed to reserve it at my local store using their click-and-collect function... and it was actually there waiting for me an hour later. Although the guy did say he had a right mission finding it in their store-room :lol: So, armed with what I should have got in the first place, a nice webbing buckle, I could bolt it in;
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Mazda obviously felt this might be done a lot because even the sound-absorbing mat under the seat squab has holes cut in it to access the mounting holes. Once the belt is attached, you can see how there's no way you're ever going to fit an inertia-reel in the space available; to secure-mount it to the threaded insert, it would be right in the middle of where the seat squab edge goes
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But this fixed-adjustable version seems to work perfectly well, once adjusted for length. The only downside is that it doesn't have a cover to clip over the top mount, and the bolts are the shiniest bolts ever, so it sticks out a bit aesthetically. I might try to purloin one of some spare FD belts I've got and see if I can make it fit. Or just paint the bolt-head grey, lol
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and then all that really remained was to install some live cargo and see how well it worked. And the answer is... well, it works like a seatbelt. Which after all is the whole point of the exercise :lol:
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and if you use small enough humans, they even make it look quite commodious and accommodating, lol. To be fair, the Boy's pretty cumbersome and even he had plenty of leg room, plus he said it was nice and cosy, so everyone's a winner. He might think differently after a four-hour road test though :twisted:
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Re: Lucky's Series 3

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:21 pm
by ian65
nice job... it actually doesn't look like an add-on or aftermarket item..... s(c)

Re: Lucky's Series 3

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:35 pm
by Exeon
Wow that is amazing! You put seats into the back? Did you run into any problems with the extra weight in the back? Is the installation in this thread, I would love to see more of it!

Re: Lucky's Series 3

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 8:52 pm
by ian65
Exeon wrote:Wow that is amazing! You put seats into the back? Did you run into any problems with the extra weight in the back? Is the installation in this thread, I would love to see more of it!
UK market FBs had rear seats fitted as standard from the factory, as did the Japan home market cars and some other markets...... the back rest folded forward if needed to give a flat load deck, a bit similar to the US market load space but minus the storage bins

Re: Lucky's Series 3

Posted: Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:16 pm
by spoddy
that's a good job there. rear seats are small ok and just suitable for children.
i hate trying to get the rear seats out though, but finally sussed out the way of doing it.

Re: Lucky's Series 3

Posted: Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:39 pm
by Exeon
ian65 wrote:
Exeon wrote:Wow that is amazing! You put seats into the back? Did you run into any problems with the extra weight in the back? Is the installation in this thread, I would love to see more of it!
UK market FBs had rear seats fitted as standard from the factory, as did the Japan home market cars and some other markets...... the back rest folded forward if needed to give a flat load deck, a bit similar to the US market load space but minus the storage bins
Oh okay thats really cool! I just recently bought my Rx-7 and I don`t know a whole lot about them yet aha :) These cars are so cool!

Re: C147TMX

Posted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:53 pm
by Lucky
Took this one today on getting home from Japshow Finale

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Re: C147TMX

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 1:09 pm
by Marc S
That last pic's a cracker :)

Re: C147TMX

Posted: Mon Oct 12, 2015 7:49 pm
by KiwiDave
semi cloaking mode enabled. 8-)