Carb fuel pressure

Everthing you need to know, Oils, Air Filters, Oil Filters, Spark Plugs, Wipers, Bulbs. How to change them & When...
Post Reply
rustyrescue
Posts: 131
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:59 pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 38 times

Carb fuel pressure

Post by rustyrescue »

I am struggling stopping our carb flooding now we have a decent fuel pump.
The Mazda manual does not give a fuel pressure for it running....it offers a pressure of 3.7 to 4.7 psi to test a standard pump BUT with the supply pipe capped off so dead head test.
The car is a fuel return system as standard so I would assume the fuel pressure at the needle valves on a standard car with Nikki carb would be somewhat less than the pump can provide capped off because it will have a continuous flow.
Any ideas appreciated....I have tried several needle valves and float heights are correct.
User avatar
gt_james
VIP User
VIP User
Posts: 1067
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:10 pm
Location: Tewkesbury UK
Has thanked: 114 times
Been thanked: 211 times

Re: Carb fuel pressure

Post by gt_james »

I have written down in my notes

For S1/2 its 4.5psi
For S3 its 3.5psi

Do you have a decent fuel pressure regulator and gauge?
rustyrescue
Posts: 131
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:59 pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 38 times

Re: Carb fuel pressure

Post by rustyrescue »

Hi, yes, currently have a filter/reg set up dead head though have a holly to try later on a return system if I prove the pump solves the coasting to a halt issue! The new pump flows double the acceptable measure according to manual whereas the previous pump was barely on acceptable and seemed not to cope at higher revs. (the standard pump died soon after getting the car back to life) I have two gauges to play with too :lol:
I am struggling to see how a capped pump test on a standard car of 3.7 to 4.7 psi acceptable can result in a running pressure on a return system of 4.5 psi? maybe I am missing something? The standard pump was always marginal I have been told.
I have tried several needle valves from spare carbs and with the carb lid off and inverted they seal ok if I blow into them gently so are sealing.
I may try winding back the fuel pressure a bit.....I feel if the float bowls can be kept full to the right level perhaps the pressure is a red herring.
Thanks again for thoughts.
User avatar
gt_james
VIP User
VIP User
Posts: 1067
Joined: Sun Apr 06, 2014 4:10 pm
Location: Tewkesbury UK
Has thanked: 114 times
Been thanked: 211 times

Re: Carb fuel pressure

Post by gt_james »

try adjusting the pressure down till the needles stop blowing by, and then try drive it. fuel pressure Gauges are never accurate anyway. Your gauges could be saying 3.5psi but actually at 5.5psi. I bet the two gauges you have don't read the same.

Remember pressure is just a measurement of the restriction to flow. A capped off return line just allows the pressure in the supply line to build up to the max the pump can generate, but in a full flow situation at high engine load the pump may not keep up and you'll get a pressure drop, even if it tested ok dead head. A capped test doesn't test flow, only pressure and is only a good test that the system doesn't have any leaks, tells you nothing about pump performance really.
rustyrescue
Posts: 131
Joined: Tue Feb 02, 2021 7:59 pm
Has thanked: 1 time
Been thanked: 38 times

Re: Carb fuel pressure

Post by rustyrescue »

yes thats the plan, trouble is it floods whilst trying to adjust it :lol: I will play later! I do feel as long as the flow/volume can be met and the floats stay to the correct level then pressure is not important.
Post Reply

Return to “RX7 Maintenance & Service”